After fighting with an ft857 remote and my own errors I suceeded in them communicating, but I had audio latency and dropouts.Also the ft857 control would take several attempts to power up.
I fixed the problem.
My RRC was plugged into a 5 port switch, along with the webswitch and a weather computer, that was connected to a wifi extender that had a network port on it.
last night I moved the switch with a temporary long cat 5 cable to my modem/router that has ethernet ports on it.
This morning success first time , I can now power up and down , no issues.
So I have other wifi devices in the house(cameras mostly) so I am sure it was a bottleneck at the wifi extender that chocked everything.