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K3/0 mini - K3S Twin setup Term on K3/0
« on: 2018-11-03, 02:14:36 »
Hi Folks,
I have a K3/0 mini with a K3S setup as the K3-Twin configuration. I have a factory cable on the K3/0 mini hooked up to the RCC_Remote side. The K3S has a home brew cable hooked up to the RCC_Radio. The radio cable has been checked a couple of times. It is just a simple three wire cable (am I wrong ?).

I know that the "TERM" message usually means that there is a serial communications problem. So is there a way to test either side? The setup is on my local LAN. No firewall or router involved (as far as I know).

To the best of knowledge, both devices have the latest firmware. I am looking for any ideas or suggestions.
TNX Will WC2L

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Re: K3/0 mini - K3S Twin setup Term on K3/0
« Reply #1 on: 2018-11-03, 05:14:01 »
Hi Will,

TERM just means that it is in terminal mode and has no standing on it if is working or not. Normally,
the TERM shows-up on the screen for a few seconds and then the remote K3 display shows. You
didn't really say what was not working, so I am I correct to assume that you mean that the TERM does
not go away and the remote K3 display does not show?

If so, this could be due to a number of problems. First of all, check to make sure the remote K3's power
goes on when you hit the control power button. If not, then you need to concentrate of the cable going
to the K3's ACC port. If it does go on, then the problem lies with the CAT signal from the RS232 port.
That could be caused by a number of things, including wrong baud settings in one of the K3's.

Bottom line is we need more details. All of the cable wiring diagrams are in the RemoteRig manual.

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Re: K3/0 mini - K3S Twin setup Term on K3/0
« Reply #2 on: 2018-11-03, 12:16:31 »
The K3/0 mini displays the TERM and does not go away...
Both radios have 38400 set for the baud rate
Both RCCs have 38400, 8, N, 0, CTS/RTS Yes
When I turn on the K3/0, the K3S goes on.

Now that I am re looking at it.. I need to make the cable from the RJ45/Serial to the COM Port on thr RCC!!
Does anyone have that pin out? I know I can figure it out..

TNX Will WC2L

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Re: K3/0 mini - K3S Twin setup Term on K3/0
« Reply #3 on: 2018-11-03, 12:41:24 »
OK, I hooked up the K3 Y cable to the RCC and it works!!!
I may be on my way again!!!
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!!

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« Reply #4 on: 2018-11-03, 15:45:02 »
Glad you found it, Will! I had assumed that you had the serial cable between the K3's RS232
port and the RRC's COM2, since it would not work without it. At least now you found it.

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Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX

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Re: K3/0 mini - K3S Twin setup Term on K3/0
« Reply #5 on: 2018-11-04, 13:17:53 »
Call it a brain fart on my side or post and end up with an egg in my face...
Station reconfiguration and that cable not in the pile will get you every time!!

FYI, I am in Canada listening to my station (I will get on). I have the AP client working!
Thanks for all of your GREAT support!!

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Re: K3/0 mini - K3S Twin setup Term on K3/0
« Reply #6 on: 2019-08-24, 15:13:48 »
HELLO!!

I did a search about this problem.

I was using two K3/100 and never happened to me to see that the TERM does not go away and the remote K3 display does not show

10 days ago I got a K3/0 Mini with factory cable RRMINICBL and I started often to see that the TERM does not go away and the remote K3 display does not show

So the problem may be is a bad RRMINICBL  cable?

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« Reply #7 on: 2019-08-24, 17:46:29 »
Did you change the new mini to the correct RS232 baud rate?

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Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX

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« Reply #8 on: 2019-08-25, 00:05:49 »
yes Mitch

remote radio and control radio (K3/0 Mini) are in 38400

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Jorge

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« Reply #9 on: 2019-08-25, 00:40:49 »
Hi Jorge,

OK, because that is usually what causes this type of problem after switching. Otherwise, they should work
identically using the old RRC.

I suggest contacting Elecraft support, since this is their product.

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Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX

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« Reply #10 on: 2019-08-27, 00:04:18 »
Hi Mitch

today I was playing on FT8 on 15 meters, and no problems with remoterig, K3/0 Mini WSJT-X

Now on 160 meters, with 300 watts, and again the problems.

So i am thinking maybe some RFI problem getting into radio remoterig AUX/MIC connector? That could be possible?

I will go to remote site and add some ferrites to this cable going to remoterig box

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Jorge
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« Reply #11 on: 2019-08-27, 00:18:54 »
Yes, Jorge, RFI can always be a problem and it is always worth adding protection in any case.

I hope that you solve the problem.

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Mitch DJ0QN / K7DX

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« Reply #12 on: 2019-09-01, 19:21:34 »
Hello

I want to share a solution that seems is working for me.

I couldnt go to remote site to try some ferrites on cables, but I read a note from Elecraft about Audio quality on Radio Settings on remoterig configurations

When I had the problems, I have Audio quality = 8 - linear 16 bits 16 khz

I changed it, i used Audio quality = 5 but problem persist although last more time to apear.

Finally I am using  Audio quality = 3 Alaw 12 khz and is working very good, no more problem with lost connection with remoterig boxes

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Jorge
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